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The yay is that we got heroic 10m Putricide in WoW last night. It really is a cool thing, and the result of a lot of work. Only two more achievements left for the 10man drakes (heroic Sindrigosa and the Waited A Long Time For This one).

Really, really down today. A moodswing from being up/manic/productive last week, I guess. And I'm worried about one of my cats--Missy (aka cat 3 of 4), the maine coon. What we thought was a mat of fur is an about third inch growth on her skin, and I'm going to have to get her to the vet. Don't know if it's something that's infected/inflamed, or if it's a tumor of some sort.

But also, fandom is just...making me sad right now. I thought it was bad enough to see/hear about such hate for my favorite character, but to know how people are being to each other now...it's just really disheartening. I do not understand the meanness, the hurtfulness, even the swearing at each other. I just don't comprehend it. Aren't we in this for a common love of this show and it's characters? Even if you don't like all of the characters or parts of the show, don't people know how to be respectful and considerate of others, to know that something you say horrible things about might be something that someone else likes or even loves?

I guess for me...well, I'll put it simply. I like Sam Winchester. I like Jared Padalecki. I like fanworks, whether they be gen or slash or even RPF/RPS. I like Supernatural--and I will, I am pretty damned sure, continue to like it. But most of all, most importantly, I like you. There's a reason I friended you all, and there's a reason I keep you as friends and hope you keep me as well. I greatly appreciate that I can share in your lives in these small ways, and share in this common love of the show Supernatural, its characters, and cast/crew.


Please, just be excellent to each other?


Anyway. Stuff I have to do first, but what I want to do is find feel-good, uplifting, hopeful fic and just hide and wallow. Though I also kind of want to see if I have a DVD of Bill & Ted, and watch it and try to get rid of this stupid urge to cry I've had since waking up. I'm too old to be like this--I'm 37 not 17.

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Date: 2010-09-27 04:15 pm (UTC)
the_milky_way: (sam/dean (big bang))
From: [personal profile] the_milky_way
*huggles*

I don't get it either.
*sends chocolate and good thoughts*

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Date: 2010-10-06 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitereflection.livejournal.com
Belated thank you, by the way ♥

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Date: 2010-09-27 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jojothecr.livejournal.com
But also, fandom is just...making me sad right now.
That's just why I stayed away from LJ for the whole weekend. I saw a few disappointed and downright angry posts when I just made a search for DL links and it pissed me off to no limits. Seriously, wtf?! And what makes me angry even more is that when someone didn't like it, they automatically assume that other people just couldn't like it either, and they put them/us into one big pile of disappointed fans. Like they could actually do it better.

The boys, both, are awesome, and I really hope they can't see what's happening here. They don't deserve any of this shit.

I'm sorry about your cat. I hope it's nothing serious. Let me know when you come back from the vet, okay?

And I'm sorry you're feeling down, the fandom wank doesn't help that matter. I know. I spent the whole weekend in tears; don't ask me why, I just do that sometimes.
*hugs*

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Date: 2010-10-06 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitereflection.livejournal.com
By the way, thank you for all the good thoughts and supportiveness. ♥ I've been really bad at getting back to my comments again lately, but I really have appreciated it. *hugs back*

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Date: 2010-09-27 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chez-amanda.livejournal.com
Hell yes be excellent to each other. I don't know what's gotten up fandom's ass. It makes me glad that I have the f-list that I do and there was only a few cases of annoying wank that popped up. Fandom needs to chill the fuck out.

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Date: 2010-09-27 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-eilthana.livejournal.com
I'm feeling really down lately, too. *hugs* I hope it gets better for you and that the vet can help your cat.

I thought it was bad enough to see/hear about such hate for my favorite character, but to know how people are being to each other now...it's just really disheartening.
Aren't we in this for a common love of this show and it's characters? Even if you don't like all of the characters or parts of the show, don't people know how to be respectful and considerate of others, to know that something you say horrible things about might be something that someone else likes or even loves?


This fandom... .__. I sometimes really get where the bad reputation comes from. And I agree with you 100%.

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Date: 2010-09-27 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ditta-spn.livejournal.com
That movie is awesome!!

And I've seen the negativity of the past few days!!! Some people need some love for the show and the boys work!!!

*hugs*

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Date: 2010-10-06 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitereflection.livejournal.com
*belated hugs back* Sorry, been terrible at getting to my comments again! ^^;

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Date: 2010-10-06 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ditta-spn.livejournal.com
That's ok, hun!!! I know you've been through a lot!!

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Date: 2010-09-27 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelleigh.livejournal.com
But most of all, most importantly, I like you.

♥ ♥

I think fandom's acting like a bunch of kids who've been cooped up all summer and we're letting it all out now. I'll admit that I was let down by the premiere, but that's not fandom's fault, and I still love the show more than anything else on television. But hell, it's like real love, it's not puppies and sunshine 24/7, but we'll get through.

And then I think some people are looking for an excuse to drop the show/get out of fandom and being so harsh on the premiere is their way out.

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Date: 2010-10-06 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitereflection.livejournal.com
Augh, I have been *terrible* at getting to my comments again. :( Sorry! But I definitely agree, we'll get through. ♥

And yikes, your work is probably *crazy* right now. Good luck, hope it's going okay! \o/

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Date: 2010-09-27 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacklesthewitch.livejournal.com
This is the second post I've seen referring to the bad vibes in fandom this weekend but I haven't really seen much of it - well, not on my tiny flist anyway (and that is one of the main reasons it's tiny).

The premiere didn't really do it for me, but there were things I loved and besides, it's Show! Why the hell watch something/participate in fandom if you're just going to shit all over it in the end? All I can say is that there are some really unhappy people out there who feel the need to share (misery loves company and all that). Someone should take their internet away or lock them all up in a room together. Hehe, that would end well.

Please, just be excellent to each other?

A perfect sentiment ♥

Btw, so sorry you're feeling down again. I've been up and down with my moods lately as well. The other day my mother so lovingly suggested it was pre-menopause (I'm 35!). I don't know how that's supposed to make you feel better, except to be thankful you don't have a mother that's as helpful to getting rid of said bad mood as mine.

*hugs*
Edited Date: 2010-09-27 06:02 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-09-27 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odysseaia.livejournal.com
Oi! Don't be sad! *hugs*

I mean, I do get what you mean about being disappointed or disheartened by fandom. Goodness knows, I really loathe its attitude at times, i.e. referring to moments when it rips apart fanworks with an attitude that's nothing short of arrogant. It's only that much worse when it comes to the show itself.

BUT!!! But the show has given us characters to care about and people do care or the reactions wouldn't be as strong as they are. That being said, I like Sam, too. Gooo, Sammy!

That being said, I think you just conned a phrase with "Let's be excellent to each other!" This phrase alone made me smile and it's things like that that I friended you for. You just brightened my day or, to put it differently, you were pretty excellent to me. Thanks ;) ♥

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Date: 2010-10-06 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitereflection.livejournal.com
I'm so terrible at getting to my comments lately :( But thanks so much for the encouragement and good thoughts ♥ I seriously appreciate it. And it's cool to know I made you smile. Many *hugs* back! Even when fandom gets me down, it's nice to remember there are folks like you out there. :)

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Date: 2010-09-27 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_amalthea/
I have luckily learned to stay away from certain places, but I can still sense vibe of all that wank going on. It is really just depressing. And especially when that Sam/Jared hate started already ages ago. I was juat all big question mark that time, because how can you consider yourself a fan of this show if you suddenly hate pretty much 50% of what makes it this show?! And just simply: how can you hate that silly, goofy giant with the cutest dimples and puppy dog eyes?!

It was also very depressing for me when I was watching the first episode because I kept thinking "oh the fandom is so not gonna like this" every now and then.. and then I asked myself what is wrong with me. I shouldn't think about that, I should just enjoy the show for myself because I certainly didn't turn all angsty about the stuff. Sure I was little confused about some stuff, like for example how cold Sam had suddenly come and how caring Dean suddenly was. But I just find these things interesting and actually necessary for the plot development. If there isn't any character development, how can there be any story development?

I actually came up with sort of a theory why the fandom sometimes reacts so strongly to some happenings in the show. I think we sometimes are just too deep into this whole fandom picture of the show, so certain that these fics we write (well not me personally but as I consider myself part of the fandom, even if not the hateful one, I still have to speak in this "we" sense) are the actual canon, we forget that we don't actually write the canon and we certainly can't decide what's going to happen. And then there's the whine that the writers should respect what we fans want but if they really did that to the degree people seem to want, I bet the wincest storyline would've happnened already seasons ago (well maybe not, but you get my point) :D

Oh well, I'm glad most of my flist is still on the positive attitude and even if there's something they don't like, no one goes attacking one another. But I get why you feel sad and I often feel so myself (hence my last short hiatus). But I guess we just need to learn to filter all the bad stuff away and concentrate on the good stuff.

Like that SUPERNATURAL IS BACK and all is good in the world again because we can enjoy the company of our favorite boys every week again :) <3

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Date: 2010-09-27 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
And just simply: how can you hate that silly, goofy giant with the cutest dimples and puppy dog eyes?!

This!

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Date: 2010-09-27 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_amalthea/
:D also your icon sums it up pretty well!

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Date: 2010-10-06 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitereflection.livejournal.com
But I just find these things interesting and actually necessary for the plot development. If there isn't any character development, how can there be any story development?

Oh my gosh, exactly! And especially after the events of 5.22, had people expected to be no changes, no effects?

because how can you consider yourself a fan of this show if you suddenly hate pretty much 50% of what makes it this show?!

\o/ Another exactly! It's something that's kind of made me boggle at times, with the attitudes people have had--not just a 'why are you still watching?', but a 'why were you even watching in the first place?' Because some of the things people hate, are like, as you said, 50% if not more of the show. Like how can they hate Sam, when the show, no matter if you ship or not, is SAM'N'DEAN, no ifs ands or buts. And those that act like Castiel is the only thing that exists on the show, I'm just don't get it--because um, gee, wasn't the show about Sam and Dean for YEARS beforehand? Like if they want a show just about him, they need to lobby for a spin-off, not try to act like a show that's always been Sam'n'Dean should drop focus from either of those two, or even both. I really appreciate those that if they are a fan of his character, understand that he's part of a cast and not the only character in it. I may have certain secondary characters that I like, but I'd never act they should be main characters, and especially would never act like they should replace the current main characters.

Your theory is a good one--that does make sense.

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Date: 2010-09-27 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akintay.livejournal.com
I hope it's nothing bad, hon. Our dog had something just like that a couple of months ago and everyone was super worried, but in the end it was just an inflamed gland and apparently that's quite common! *crosses fingers*

Fandom is being really wanky right now :( Hopefully everyone will calm down soon.

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Date: 2010-09-27 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llamainvasion.livejournal.com
Yeah, fandom right now sucks a big bag of dicks, with all the wank and whatnot. I've been trying to stay away from everything except the personal journals on my f-list, because the wank springs up literally everywhere else. @.@

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Date: 2010-09-27 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
*icon needed to happen*

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Date: 2010-10-06 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitereflection.livejournal.com
Aaaaaaaa, I suck for being behind so bad on my comments again, but you seriously made me flail that you had a Bill & Ted icon. \o/ Seriously, how freaking perfect. XD ♥ (Also, they are so adorable in that icon, heeee~ )

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Date: 2010-09-28 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharona1x2.livejournal.com
I'm sorry SPN fandom is making you sad right now. I know most of the reaction to the premiere on my flist wasn't positive. I happened to like it, but I've never been very critical of the show. If something seems OOC now, I figure it'll be explained later.

I stay away from the communities. I'm a non-shipping Castiel-centric fan who likes Sam and Dean equally, so I don't feel comfortable almost anywhere. It's sad to see people who feel that the best way to lift their favorite characters/pairings up is to push other character/pairings down. Sadly, I see that happen in every fandom I go near, not just SPN. *sigh*

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Date: 2010-10-06 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitereflection.livejournal.com
It's sad to see people who feel that the best way to lift their favorite characters/pairings up is to push other character/pairings down. Sadly, I see that happen in every fandom I go near, not just SPN. *sigh*

Belated comment is belated. ^^; Sorry! But yeah, that really is the truth, isn't it? :/ I never have understood why people have to be that way. I mean, I know in multiple fandoms there have been things I don't like or disagree with, but I try to think of my friends and be considerate about what they like and value.

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