zomfgshooooow \o/

[whitereflection]

Nearly had to do a 10man raid since the guild was looking short of people. Then they had extra folks log in, and they were all "Are you sure you're okay with sitting out?" and I was like "OMFG YES I MUST GO WATCH SUPERNATURAL!" Anyway. :| Shooooooooooow ♥♥♥



Let me just say that I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THIS EPISODE IT MADE ME FLAIL AND GO EEEEEE ♥

*I am so not surprised that Dean's dreams would have Warrant as background music. Especially that song. :p Man, I used to hate that song when it came out back in ye olde high school days. XD;;

*I am...okay, I sort of have this thing about how the show depicts angels. It's just so different from how I've always envisioned angels and God and heaven and yeah. I know I'm non practicing, but I was still raised Lutheran and believed into my teens, considered myself spiritual into my late 20s (just...very uncertain of all that sort of thing now). But...I still am very black/white about good and evil. And the whole way the side of heaven is portrayed in show is so freaking...not good, in the way I see it. So grey, so just...just like they're humans or worse. Not all of course, but still. I guess maybe they're taking a very Old Testament style of God and angels. It just always...I don't know, gets under my skin, bothers me somehow, because it's so opposite of how I've always viewed. So honestly--who *is* good then? Anyone? If heaven isn't, why the hell would anyone want to be good and go there? The whole way angels are portrayed still makes me think of the Greek/Roman pantheon, other deities like that--deities that in personality and morality pretty much human, flawed. I just can't get if hell's evil...where's the good to balance it? Please excuse all this, it's just my brain just having trouble accepting this representation. Not like I need angels and heaven to be all shinyhappyrainbows--I love me some Good Omens and Dogma. I guess it just gets too far from my own imaginings to be able to chew on--I do like my evil to be evil, my good to be good, and my humans to be that mix in between. *shrugs*

*Anyway. Seriously, there's angel prisons? What. This just baffles me, really. I can't see in the Supernatural world why anyone would wanna go to heaven. >_<

*Sometimes I go back and forth on Castiel, but really I do like how his character has been in s5. I *adored* him here. *glee* The whole "Sam is my friend" and the uber protectiveness and defending him thing just makes me happy. Pushes my OT3 and my buddyOT3 button like WOAH. ~_~♥

*I am reminded that young!Mary is FREAKING HAWT and *such* an asskicker. ♥ Eeeeee♥

*The scene with Sam and John? Oh. God. Beautiful. So was close to crying during that.

*Um. Um. Hey Jude being Mary's favorite song? That's my mother's favorite song. Oh god. (Not that she ever sung it to me or my brother, but still). That bit just hit me like a truck. Aaaaaaaaa show T____T *flails* ♥

*HI I LIKE ME SOME HURT SAM FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. *cough* Er, sorry about that. >_> It just pushes one of those little guilty pleasure buttons of mine.

*Hello Michael in John. O_O This took me by much surprise. But HMMMMM. The whole thing about Michael's vessel being a bloodline thing feeds into a potential fic idea I've had--i.e. that in a combination of protecting Dean/atoning/avoiding becoming Lucifer's vessel, that *Sam* would say yes to Michael instead. I don't know what I would do with it, but GAH I want to figure out some sort of what if. Or find someone to work with it for me. :3 Especially with the whole thing that Michael doesn't leave his vessels 'a drooling mess'. Oh, the *possibilities*!

*Random thought--I really liked the background music this ep. I don't tend to notice it much other than the popular songs, but this was nice. Sort of reminded me of Native American flute music.

*The phrase "Angels are watching over you" is now one of the creepiest things ever. Man, that gave me bad goosebumps. :<

*Preview. GAAAAAAAH. I quote from my notes: "OH FUCK". Saaaaaaaaam, nooooooooo. D: Just what the boy needs (I can call him boy, I'm well older :p ), something to tweak his hyperactive guild gland even more.


And as usual, the last scene with the boys always makes me feel achy. :( I could really use an end scene between the two of them where they're smiling and laughing and having some sort of hope/optimism, and maybe even have a good groping manly hug. And while I'm at it, I'll wish for a pony and a million-I-mean-billion dollars. :B

Comments

[chez-amanda.livejournal.com]

I really like how they show that everything is basically a big grey area in life. Which is weird, I grew up Catholic and you'd think I'd be like "this is this and that is that, no grey area" but I'm also a 'fallen Catholic', so maybe that's why xD I dunno, I just really love that not everything is one specific way. This makes me really want to read that Know Your Angels book I found amongst my stuff. I think it belonged to my aunt at some point (she was very religious).

I call them boys and I'm younger than them.... :D Or "BABIES!"

I love this show SO FUCKING MUCH.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Hmm, that book sounds intriguing, actually. ^^ And I swear I used to have some sort of Encyclopedia of Angels, I'll have to go snoop through my books to see. :D

And YAY for show love! :D :D :D Episodes like this make me wish I had people to watch with, because I just want to bounce and squeal and flail with people as it happens, and like group hug afterwards or something. XD

Also: that icon! ♥~!

[chez-amanda.livejournal.com]

If my BFF didn't work Thursdays, I'd be at her place watching. She's the one who got me into the show a year ago (IT IS ALL HER FAULT lol). I keep waiting on people to post or respond to my comments.

[agent-jl36.livejournal.com]

This is one of those episodes that remind me why I am TOTALLY OBSESSED with this show!! This show does things in one episode that some shows do in a season.

Plus this show feeds my love for mythology. The angel's are obviously more warrior than guiding, but that is part of the Bible that we tend not to see. Definately not Sunday School material. Now as an adult I find it facinating!

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Plus this show feeds my love for mythology. The angel's are obviously more warrior than guiding, but that is part of the Bible that we tend not to see.

So true that! I was just mentioning in another comment that I seem to recall having bought some sort of Encyclopedia of Angels some years back, and it might be a good time to find that and read up. At the least it would be interesting, but could give some more background perhaps. I probably am stuck in a sort of child's view of the whole thing. ^^; Though I think I've always tended to be very black/white good/evil heroes/villians--I blame too much Disney as a kid or something, heh.

And yes--maaaaaaaaaan, when they have good episodes, they have *amazing* episodes! ♥

[emerald-embers.livejournal.com]

Okay, just a quick spin on your super-long comment about the angels as bad guys; I concur. I love our angels in SPN, I do, I think the angels-are-dicks line is fun, but the whole anything supernatural is bad, anything at all, even Heaven schtick does get frustrating. But I know they don't mean it that way ;). It just bugs me a wee bit as a Catholic that the whole ANGELS = BAD, BAD BAD BAD thing has become almost a cliche now.

Although it's still totally hawt in Legion, largely because it leads to Michael/Gabriel facetouching, NNGK.

John made me weep, Hey Jude made me weepy, MICHAELMICHAELMICHAEL, and basically, :D.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Although it's still totally hawt in Legion, largely because it leads to Michael/Gabriel facetouching, NNGK.

Heh heh heeeeeeeeeh heh heh. X3 I really do need to add that to my to-watch list. Because hmmmm yeah. 8D

John made me weep, Hey Jude made me weepy, MICHAELMICHAELMICHAEL, and basically, :D.

This. XD Yes. I may have to make "and basically :D" a tag. Or you should. XD

[emerald-embers.livejournal.com]

It's an appalling movie but it's completely made by Gabriel and Michael's scene in the diner <3. It's just - the dialogue is so cliche, but the delivery isn't on Gabriel's part, and there's this bit where Michael touches Gabriel's face and I swear Gabriel has a tiny tiny gasp and it KILLS MEEEEEEE.

[mistyzeo.livejournal.com]

I want their in-the-car post-episode chat back! And some full body manhugs.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

I so agree to both of these! \o/ Even my icon agrees.

[cacklesthewitch.livejournal.com]

THIS EP WAS AWESOME! It was sad and angsty, had touches of humour and furthered the mytharc - what more could you ask for?! Well, besides more Cas...

Michael showing up in John's body surprised me, too! I always wondered about whether John was originally meant to be Michael's vessel considering the necklace/pendant Sam gave Dean was meant as a gift for his father but Micheal answered my question.

The whole thing about Michael's vessel being a bloodline thing feeds into a potential fic idea I've had--i.e. that in a combination of protecting Dean/atoning/avoiding becoming Lucifer's vessel, that *Sam* would say yes to Michael instead.

I never thought of that but OMG that's an intriguing thought! WRITE IT. PRETTY PLEASE.

I, too, would have liked to see some groping something more at the end. Guess I'll have to wait for the fanfic for that:(

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

I never thought of that but OMG that's an intriguing thought! WRITE IT. PRETTY PLEASE.

Aaaaaa, I want to XD;; Just don't have an idea of what to do with it beyond that. But I'll keep thinking about it!

And oh yeah, I cannot wait to see what tags people write for this episode. ♥ There's such good, good material to start with!

[itskaylie.livejournal.com]

HOLY SHIT. THIS EPISODE, RIGHT??! It makes me re-evaluate taking the Lord's name in vain. :\ I mean, I'm not religious or anything, and I never have been (though I'm not against religion, I enjoy learning about it a lot, just not practicing), but GOD DAMN, SUPERNTURAL. THANKS FOR MAKING ME RE-EVALUATE MY SWEARING TENDENCIES. DDD:

God, this show is so delicious and wrong and bad and amazing. And BOTH Jensen and Jared blew it out of the PARK today, wow. Dean with Michael, and Sam with John, and the way he was staring at Mary and how he said "You're so beautiful." With all this AWE in his voice.

UGH.

THIS SHOW IS THE DEATH OF ME, HI.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

God, this show is so delicious and wrong and bad and amazing.

When people ask me why I like the show or why I watch it, I think I'm going to answer this. XD And so, so agreed on Jared's and Jensen's performances--I pretty much always really enjoy their work, but last night was so freaking impressive.

HAHA, SHOW OWNS YOU. AND ME. ARGH. IS IT NEXT THURSDAY YET D: D: D:?!

[brianshanelvr.livejournal.com]

Now that my mind has been opened, I feel as though there is RIGHT and WRONG aka. complete humbleness/complete pride. And everyone outside of God and his fallen angel are somewhere in tha gray.

As for hurt Sammy! I am right there with you. =D It makes me happier than anything.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

As for hurt Sammy! I am right there with you. =D It makes me happier than anything.

I get appalled at myself when I practically *squee* when it happens, but oh man, I do. :x I'm so horrible. And it probably sounds weird, but the cinematography of it was so well done--it really was so striking, all the way up to the dripping of blood from his mouth to the floor. So, so wonderfully intense.

[brianshanelvr.livejournal.com]

HELL YES! My thoughts exactly. Do not be ashamed. =D

[akintay.livejournal.com]

Don't cross out the groping! I want a gropey hug!

Lol, I'm kind of glad that I don't believe in God, because I can just go with however they portray God/angels/Lucifer. I've seen a couple of people talking about how it's sometimes weird for them watching the show, because it goes against what they believe...

And yes, Mary's hot (and totally awesome). And so is John. And Sam and Dean. It seems to be a family trait!

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Don't cross out the groping! I want a gropey hug!

XD Yeah, me too! Heck, I just want the boys hugging period. It's been so long since they did. ^^

Winchesters and Campbells have good genes :D Both for attractiveness and for physical and mental awesomeness!

[http://users.livejournal.com/_amalthea/]

I totally understand and respect your view of keeping the good good and evil evil, but to me personally this is one reason I like spn so much. I love the fact that everything isn't so black & white, that the angels can be dicks and that demons.. well have different levels of demonic at least :D I still like to think Ruby wasn't totally evil, that she was the most humane of the demons, despite what she did in the end.

I suppose I have this view because in real life, I hate when everything is often put so black&white. Either you're gay or you're straight. You either stand on the right or the left. You either believe in God and are religious or you don't and therefore you are an atheist. These are of course the most extreme examples, but I guess you get what I mean?

So basically I love gray :D

Oh totally wanting to see some gropey hugging too! Maybe in the next episode where Dean so asks Sam to be his valentine? xD

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Oh totally wanting to see some gropey hugging too! Maybe in the next episode where Dean so asks Sam to be his valentine? xD

THIS. ♥ Seriously, I want to time travel, because I want icons from the next episode, and I soooooo want the fic that will spawn from it. X3 So can't wait.

And I definitely get where you're coming from regarding the gray, heheh. What's funny is that most of my views of real life are how it's all shades of grey, that there's so many perspectives and viewpoints that there's no yes/no black/white but shades between. But get me in my entertainment, and... >_>; I think Disney messed with my head when I was a kid. Though at the same time, I really like the grey not-exactly-hero sort of figure, the flawed type. I guess it would help if there'd be *someone* in the angels that's truly good--but then again, we certainly haven't seen them all, or how they portray God whenever they get around to that. And I certainly have found it interesting how they've had one of those angels change over time.

And also, the Good Omens fan in me still wants to see some sort of Aziraphale-type angel. ^^

[dahliablue.livejournal.com]

I so loved this episode! I got teary several times. LOVED all the Winchesters together.

I loved the music too. It was different for the show, but totally perfect.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Indeed! It makes me wish I could get an mp3 of it somehow. I know people find the popular music tracks to post in some communities, but not sure there's been any sort of collection of instrumental bgm anywhere. But what was in that episode, I really, really would love to find it someday.

[dahliablue.livejournal.com]

I actually have mp3s of music from seasons 1-4. I can't remember which community I got them from. I can make a post of zip files if you're interested.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Oh, how very cool--I would be interested! If it's not too much of a pain for you to put together. That would be really awesome. :D Not sure what I could do for you in return, for the effort, but could owe ya at least, heh.

[cherie-morte.livejournal.com]

Wow, I really love how angels are portrayed. I mean, I'm not religious at all, the closest I've ever gotten to being religious was when my grandmother used to drag me to church as a kid, which is when I taught myself how to sleep with my eyes open. But I think it's really brilliant how multi-faceted they make both angels AND demons. I guess I would just be really bored with the mythology if it were as easy as black and white, but then again, I am clearly a heathen XP

I Love Castiel SFM this season. I wanted him and Sammy to become friends so much this season and I AM JUST SO OVERJOYED TO HEAR HIM SAY IT.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Heh, as I've been saying to some others, I think I got exposed to too much Disney when I was a kid or something. XD; But it would be nice to find something in the Spn world that was really good, that could be on the boys' side ^^; Or I'm just being weird or something, heh.

I wanted him and Sammy to become friends so much this season and I AM JUST SO OVERJOYED TO HEAR HIM SAY IT.

Of course, now I'm wondering exactly how it went from how Cas was to sam in I Believe the Children Are Our Future to this ep. I need fic for this!! \o/ I'm hoping someone fills in the details on this eventually, if they haven't already. :3