ironic title is ironic

[whitereflection]

And I say ironic title is ironic because when I hear 99 problems, it of course leads to 'and a bitch ain't one'. Except a bitch was one, i.e. little miss whore of Babylon. :p And maybe Dean, too, oh god pretend I didn't say that please. D: Please don't defriend me. D: D: D:

Well. Hm. All in all, at the least this didn't tear out my heart this time (though I see it's done that to others of you and *hugs* to you all :< ) Just was very, very intense, and the ending has left me with stomach clenched/knotted-tension and worry. Anyway. Tidbits discussed below, and **I'll mutter some about the preview** so avert your eyes if you avoid that sorta thing.

I found this sort of plot actually strangely realistic, whore of Babylon aside. This is very, very human nature, to turn on each other when the shit hits the fan. Though did I hear they were Lutherans? Oy. ^^; As one raised and confirmed Missouri Synod Lutheran, er, sorry? ^^;; (Dunno, maybe they were ELCA... No offense to anyone who might be that, heh.)

OH MY GOD IT JUST HIT ME. DANIEL JACKSON WAS ON SPN OMG XDDDDDDDDDDDD Yeah, I'm stupid with names, and it drove me *nuts* all ep of why Michael Shanks was so familiar and yeah, I just Googled it. AHAHAHA. GODDAMNIT NOW YOU GOTTA GET RICHARD DEAN ANDERSON IN THIS SHIT, SHOW, PLZ.

*ahem* Anyway. Okay, I needed that tension breaker. Good. So, ep had a bit more of the mix of humor or one-liners I usually like. Though goddang, were they all Cas' or what. :p The voicemail message, "I found a liquor store--and I drank it" and "It's funnier in Enochian". Ahhhh, yes. And anyone get huge urban legend vibes from that girldemon dragging the kid under the car and killing him? It reminded me of the whole 'woman goes to her car at night in a mall parking lot and is attacked by some person hiding under her vehicle' thing.

But then the serious. Yeeeeeeeeeah. I just...I dunno quite what I think of it yet. Part of me is disappointed--not in Dean the character, but that show seems to be going in a direction I was *really* hoping it wouldn't. Though I know I'm in the minority, I think, that was really hanging onto the hope that neither of them would say yes, and it's pretty obvious that's what they're leading up to. I still (theorizing here) feel that they're probably going to have them both say yes. But I wanted them to say no. I wanted them to hold on--or with Dean being so broken, find his way back to having fighting spirit and standing tall with Sam. I wanted Team Winchester, hell Team Free Will, flipping off heaven and hell and finding a way to stop things on their own. Especially since God's out of the picture, I really wanted this.

I suppose it could still happen. Dean hasn't said yes yet. But he's sure as hell off to do so, it seems. (sure as heaven?) And with what Sam said, about the *ONLY* reason he's still holding on, is still able to hold on, is because of Dean? And then to have Dean walk out, drive off, with Sam I'm sure *KNOWING* what he's doing...yeah, I can see this becoming Sam's breaking point. Because his only thing just broke and is (looking to) give in. I guess I could see this as an after effect of Dean losing all hope and being empty. He's got absolutely nothing left...so this becomes the only way he feels can fix things, I guess. Becomes the only thing that gives him hope and fills that emptiness. But man, it isn't what I wanted. Though yes, I know, next ep could change a lot, especially with the preview, and the Zachariah and the "You didn't think it would be that easy, did you?" sort of line.

Makes me really wonder what will happen next ep. It was really hard to tell details from the clip. I am HOPING HOPING HOPING that even if Dean starts out with intention of saying yes, that he doesn't, that whatever goes on makes him stop himself and go back to Sam or Sam and Castiel.

Interesting though..this ep really felt pairing laden. There was that Dean and Castiel bonding moment, a hint of Sassy, and I'm sure the Dean/Lisa people are sparkling. Hell, I even felt like there was a major meaningful glance between those two hunter buddies before the one guy got offed. Too bad that my OTP feels like it's so unravelled at the moment. I am so looking forward to things wrapping up and hopefully that being fixed. I want my UST and my brotherbonding and my brotherschemistry and my oh boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys. I'm just really looking forward to it, you know?

And IMO, poor Sam needs some freaking love. Especially some freaking love from Dean. :p But just in general. I do really worry about him, yeah, after this one. I wonder if he'll be able to hold himself together and keep fighting, or if this'll push him over the edge til he ends up like Dean's been? Though I wonder if there'll be any fic--the last two eps, IMO, have really been what could be seeds for massive Sam guilt. Guilt for the things he's done causing the world and Dean to end up like this--but also guilt for the things he couldn't control, guilt for hurting Dean by just being himself. Could be interesting if some author would work with that.

Sorry about the Sam-sympathetic rambling there. Sometimes I can't help myself. :< But daaaaaaaang, him with the knife in that one fight, mmmmm. It is *LOVELY* to see him like that, dangerous and competent. (Especially when at times it feels like he just is made to stand in the background and look pained and doesn't get to be useful or whatever he does/thinks/says is of course the wrong thing and hurts someone and AAAAA crap, I promise I am shutting up on that now for real.)

But *maaaaan* I need the next ep. 100, scary. Bah, what'm I saying. I need the next 5 damned episodes. (And I need to do some s1 and s2 watching, because I am really, really missing the feel of that stuff.)

Comments

[chez-amanda.livejournal.com]

And anyone get huge urban legend vibes from that girldemon dragging the kid under the car and killing him? It reminded me of the whole 'woman goes to her car at night in a mall parking lot and is attacked by some person hiding under her vehicle' thing.
OMG YES AND THAT'S A HUGE FEAR OF MINE. Seriously, I check my car.

And you're so right about the realistic feel and the whole "us against them" cray cray religious stuff. I pointed that out (a bit) in my reaction. That shit scares me because people are so easily swayed when in situations like that or ones where the person is in a bad spot. People are just so vulnerable. I live in a part of Ohio that's lousy with all kinds of protestant religions (seriously, our town has about 3k people and 12 different churches). I can totally see this happening here.

It did seem like a lot of pairings were in this ep AND OMFG I WAS TOTALLY THINKING THE TWO HUNTERS WERE IN LOVE. The Lisa thing was a bit... random, only because she hadn't been mentioned in a couple seasons. It was kinda sweet, though, but random.

Sammy needs a hug. He's really trying to turn around from what he did.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

I already check the back seat whenever I get in my car--I don't care if it's sitting in my danged garage ^^; I still do--and now I think I'll be finally peeking underneath. Oy. XD;;

I agree on the random. It's like...in a way, I would have thought maybe Cassie before Lisa/Ben? In a way, I felt like Dean wasn't necessarily looking to reconnect with a specific person, wasn't necessarily holding this big love for Lisa all this time. I feel like it's more the ideal that she and Ben stand for--the white picket fence and spouse and 2.5 kids and a couple pets thing. So maybe he's picked the thing that most closely resembles that and in this moment of breaking down is trying to make sure that's waiting for him after. I dunno. Just sorta pondering.

It is sad how much I want to hug Sam. XD;; Show, quit making me be all weird like that.

[chez-amanda.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think it was more that. And it's not like he had some big, dramatic last kiss. Just a "take care" kind of thing. And we always have known that Dean wanted a family, so why not provide for the one he once thought he had?

*loves on Sammy* looooooove yooooooouuuuuuu NOW HUG YOUR BROTHER.

[mysticwaters.livejournal.com]

I can't take much more of what this show has been throwing at us. D': I love it, but it's hurting my heart.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

No doubt. :< I know the whole it's darkest before the dawn thing people were saying to me last week--but goddang, next episode needs to throw us some freakin hope already. I am so hoping next ep gives us something to feel hopeful about and not just more of what the last couple eps have done. ^^; (Ugh, and I am abusing the word hope. Shutting up now. >_< )

*hugs more*

[zuben-eschamali.livejournal.com]

*accepts the hug*

Though did I hear they were Lutherans? Oy.

Not only that, but Minnesotans to boot. I guess the point was that even people not predisposed to cultlike behavior could fall prey to the Whore.

And anyone get huge urban legend vibes from that girldemon dragging the kid under the car and killing him?

Totally! If it was a woman catching a ride with the boys, she would have looked under the car first.

The "it's funnier in Enochian" line cracked me up, as did Sam's little-brother-style eyeroll to Cas's, "Sam, of course, is an abomination." And I totally agree with you on Sam's hotness with a knife; it was definitely nice to see that again.

But yeah, this ep broke me more than last week's, because Dean's been beaten down so many times it's almost routine, but to have Sam pour his heart out and say he can't do this without Dean and then to have Dean drive off like that...dude. That's as bad as Sam leaving Dean in a bloody mess late last season. Sam definitely needs some love.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

as did Sam's little-brother-style eyeroll to Cas's, "Sam, of course, is an abomination."

Aaaaa, I forgot to make note of that line to go with the other Cas ones. XD The eyeroll was indeed awesome.

Sam definitely needs some love.

Good gravy, yes. And not like I'm not already on the prowl for fic that does that. But the last couple eps have been making me downright obsessive about it. ^^;; Now'm gonna need fixits that deal with Sam saying that all and Dean leaving. As well as the amulet. And the voice mail from last season. And and... ^^;

Oh, that icon you're using... ♥

[breathe-me27.livejournal.com]

Yes to pretty much all of this. Especially the Sam-sympathetic rambling! Someone (Cas or Dean, I'm not picky) give the boy of hug, for the love of God!
Ohhh, Sam was awesome with that knife. I think he took out more demons than the rest of the hunters put together.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Hugs for Sam from everyone! \o/ XD And I think he might have--and with a lot more style than those guns, imo. ;D

[octoberxsong.livejournal.com]

YOU BREATHE WITH THE MOUTH OF A GOAT!

That's all.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Aaaaahahahahaha, yes.

And how ironic, considering that particular look on Dean has always made me want to make an icon of it with the text "goatse". :p

[kros-21.livejournal.com]

I don't get this decision right now.
I mean, he couldn't give up when Sam was all "team Ruby ftw" and now that Sam made it clear he is 100% there with him, it's not enough.
:/

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

Yeah, talk about a total turnaround. >_o Each of them's gone 180 degrees. But on the one hand, I still give a nod to Sam's mistakes being motivated by good intentions--but Dean's...ugh, I dunno. I truly do understand that he his spirit's broken, he's fallen into dispair--but it just feels like he's all "You're finally 100% with me, Sam? Well, too bad, too late. I'm giving up, fuck you." I'm really anxious for the next episode to see if it helps things at all, or just makes me more upset at him. :x I want the boys fixed, so much \D:/ And hugging!

[akintay.livejournal.com]

It was an awesome episode, but god, Dean needs to stop what he's doing. And lol, Lisa seemed pretty random. HE SHOULD BE WITH SAM, HUGGING IT OUT.

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

HE SHOULD BE WITH SAM, HUGGING IT OUT.

YESSSSSSSSSS. So very yes. >_< And criminy, no kidding on the random bit. I forget who else I was commenting to that had also said it was so random, that it would have seemed more fitting to have the person he was going and saying that to be Cassie or such. But I thought maybe he went to Lisa/Ben not because of some great love he's been holding onto for her, but because he's got this craving now for white picket fences and a family of spouse, 2.5 kids, and some pets, and she and Ben kinda sorta fit that. So that he picked them because they reflected this ideal.

Honestly, though, there better be some damned hugging soon. :E These last eps are just sorta making everyone flinchy, I think and we need boys-hugging therapy, pronto.

[ditta-spn.livejournal.com]

I love what you say... And I also think they won't say yes!!! I know that I don't want them to!! LOL

I love the little moment between Cas and Dean, plus the scenes with Cas and Sam.

It was so sweet when Dean went to see Lisa!!!

[whitereflection.livejournal.com]

And I also think they won't say yes!!! I know that I don't want them to!!

Oh my gosh, I so don't want them to either. I so so so don't. I keep trying to have hopes that somehow they won't. But man, this last episode sure made it hard to keep feeling like that. ^^; Lend me some of your faith! XD

[ditta-spn.livejournal.com]

*sending faith*