In a non-progression, casual guild, I guess it could be. >_> Funny, allegedly Dauntless wasn't that. Minimal effort was *assumed*, because *more* than minimal effort was allegedly the standard. Fuck Kernall and Yurgi. No real guild would take them. I sort of wish there were a way to tell Kernall that people didn't want him voted in, and we three fought to give him second and third chances. I so regret that. And nothing, NOTHING about what Yurgi is saying/acting would have flown under Nazantia who *was Yurgi's GM back then*. Nazantia would have kicked his ass out of raids, if not out of guilds.